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06-13-2008, 07:19 PM
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You asked how much to rent a camper and how are campers on gas.
I just tried to list all the variables involved in the gas thing, gas being over four dollars a gallon just now and campers being notorious gas guzzlers.
Did not meant it as an ofense, Moni. Just think: A vehicle advertised MPG is arrived to under controlled conditions such as flat and level ground, no wind, steady speed (no stop and go), nice weather and so forth.
In reality, it is the other way around with hilly terrain (which makes the engine work harder and thus wastes more gas), power requirements (same thing), airconditioning usage (same), size of camper (same), etc. So, if you do make your calculations (you can always ask a car rental company for a given vehicle's rated MPG and then use that figure along with cost of gas in your area and make the necessary adjustments for gas wasting variables to arrive to your actual cost (rental plus insurance plus gasoline plus other expenses). Clear now?
The backyard tent thing was merely because, if you backtrack on the thread, you will find I initially commented the very same thing somewhere.
As for the gas theft... this has been happening quite often lately, especially in the eastern seaboard states. check these out, there are tons of the same all over.
http://www.gastheft.com/ http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080527/...ured_gas_tanks
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Econo...4941278&page=1
Well?
Again, sorry for commenting.
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You can comment all you want because this is a message board. A message board is a place where exchange ideas and what not. The part where you referred to the "curling iron" seemed condescending. That's all.
As far as the stealing the gas thing, I know all about it. I belong to a big Disney message board and have been threads going on about it for years so that part didn't bother me.
And the backyard thing was like you telling me to stay home since I can't camp out the right way. There isn't really a right way. And out of my question "how much to rent a camper?" came your long response...
Anyhow, you don't scare me Palito. I can be a nightmare just like you. Be very afraid.
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06-13-2008, 10:40 PM
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The curling iron come to mind because I recalled a Den Mother (yep, I was active in Scouting for about 30 years) who, during a camp out for Wood Badge training, took her curling iron along.... and wound up asking every single person in the training group who had a camper (most did) if she could plug it in some electrical outlet... no one said yes.
She wound up plugging it directly to a small generator she found "lying around" in a little property yard.... to make it short, suffice to say that after that experience she got permanent curly hair. LOL Condescending? Nope. Just funny.
The gas, channel 10 (abc) just passed a local report on that very same issue: gas stealing. I think the next time I go to Disneyland (just about 90 minutes away) I will not drive but take the Amtrak (I can take the trolley from 2 blocks down home and ride to the downtown train station and then take the San Diegan to Fullerton and a bus to Anaheim where Disneyland is located. The bus leaves me right in front of the D main entrance. All is left to do is show my Pass and get the customary admission tix and go right in (yep, I am a lifetime Disney passholder. long story).
The backyard thing... out of a Disney cartoon... Donald Duck nephews camping in the backyard because they were afraid to rough it in the woods.
Besides, did you ever camp in your backyard when a kid. Oh, damn, Am very sorry. I forgot you spent your childhood in the Dominican Republic (AM SERIOUS!). Around here, most kids wind up camping in their homes backyards at least once. I used to do that all the time with my cousins until I was old enough to go camping with my boy scout troop. And loved it. The girls would not even do that. "too rough or too many bugs".
The long reponse on the camper... merely trying to explain the various issues, etc.
Afraid of me? Why? I am what I am, dear lady. I think you are being overly sensitive and taking ofense where there is none. Different perception of things.
Scare you? Why so? Not my intention either.
Don't worry, madam. I wont comment on your posts again.  Dont like being taken out of context.
Have a wonderful weekend with your husband. Wish him happy father's day for me.
Ciao!
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Originally Posted by Moni
You can comment all you want because this is a message board. A message board is a place where exchange ideas and what not. The part where you referred to the "curling iron" seemed condescending. That's all.
As far as the stealing the gas thing, I know all about it. I belong to a big Disney message board and have been threads going on about it for years so that part didn't bother me.
And the backyard thing was like you telling me to stay home since I can't camp out the right way. There isn't really a right way. And out of my question "how much to rent a camper?" came your long response...
Anyhow, you don't scare me Palito. I can be a nightmare just like you. Be very afraid. 
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06-14-2008, 09:11 AM
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Afraid of me? Why? I am what I am, dear lady. I think you are being overly sensitive and taking ofense where there is none. Different perception of things.
Scare you? Why so? Not my intention either.
Don't worry, madam. I wont comment on your posts again.  Dont like being taken out of context.
Have a wonderful weekend with your husband. Wish him happy father's day for me.
Ciao! 
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I said I wasn't afraid of you. Not that I am afraid of you. If you feel that you can't comment on my posts anymore then that's up to you, but I was only telling you what bothered me. I am not overly sensitive, but sometimes you can be a little on the condescending side, but if that's a part of you then I'll have to accept that you have sarcasm in the way you talk. It's just that I will let you know if you say something that bothers me and that's just me.
I'm sure we can be good friends if we just communicate / talk it out and that's what message boards are for, discussion whether we agree on whatever we're talking about or not. Thanks for explaining what you meant. I appreciate it.
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06-14-2008, 11:30 PM
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I had prepared a kilometric reply but, if you cannot understand what I say and I always wind up having to explain my explanations to you... suffice to say this:
My grandmother used to say, in Spanish: "siempre vemos la paja en el ojo ajeno y no la viga en el propio." So there.
If you dont know what I am trying to say to you with that... there is absolutely nothing I can do to explain.
Dont take yourself so seriously  . Life is too short to waste it that way.
Ciao!
Your friend and cohort: Palito
PS... happy fathers day to YOU!
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Originally Posted by Moni
I said I wasn't afraid of you. Not that I am afraid of you. If you feel that you can't comment on my posts anymore then that's up to you, but I was only telling you what bothered me. I am not overly sensitive, but sometimes you can be a little on the condescending side, but if that's a part of you then I'll have to accept that you have sarcasm in the way you talk. It's just that I will let you know if you say something that bothers me and that's just me.
I'm sure we can be good friends if we just communicate / talk it out and that's what message boards are for, discussion whether we agree on whatever we're talking about or not. Thanks for explaining what you meant. I appreciate it. 
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06-15-2008, 07:56 AM
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I had prepared a kilometric reply but, if you cannot understand what I say and I always wind up having to explain my explanations to you... suffice to say this:
My grandmother used to say, in Spanish: "siempre vemos la paja en el ojo ajeno y no la viga en el propio." So there.
If you dont know what I am trying to say to you with that... there is absolutely nothing I can do to explain.
Dont take yourself so seriously  . Life is too short to waste it that way.
Ciao!
Your friend and cohort: Palito
PS... happy fathers day to YOU! 
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Back on topic...I decided to go camping because there is a bathroom and showers on site. Sweet! Maybe it won't be so bad after all.
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06-15-2008, 08:09 PM
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Enjoy... and don't forget the 'charmin' or whatever brand you use. Campsite toilets are notorious for not having that article handy, especially on weekends. Also, bring your own handsoap and towels (for the same basic reason)
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Back on topic...I decided to go camping because there is a bathroom and showers on site. Sweet! Maybe it won't be so bad after all.
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06-15-2008, 10:11 PM
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When I go I usually just pack all that I can bring and then if it gets used up...Mother Nature provides all. You just gotta know what to look for. The longest I was ever out was a week, hiked a good chunk of the Appliacian Trail. Truthfully if you use common sense on what to bring and what are luxury items (i.e. CD Player, Radio, Laptop, etc...) you'll be fine. For food I usually bring those Lipton soup packets, noodle packets, trail mix, beef jerkey, and suff like that (not alotta space taken up and easy to cook out on the trail). I only drink water out there, but for something different I make pine tea. Just put a sprig of pine in a pot of hot water for about 5 minutes, makes a great tea. But if you go to a established campground you probally wouldnt have to worry about much, there is usually consession stands with stuff your gonna need. I usually go out in the middle of nowhere. Just remember Leave No Trace.
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06-15-2008, 11:28 PM
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I use MRE's for food and bring in an antibacterial filter straw for my drinking needs (like the Aquapure filter) and have excellent drinking water in about 15 minutes (from most any water tap, river, etc). Any good boy scout supply center, army-navy stores, military surplus or camping/survivalist outfitter should have good quality filters in various capacities. MRE's... you cannot actually have military issued ones but the same companies that make those for military use also make the very same products for civilian consumption. These are also good to have around the car and house in case of a natural distaster. Have extremely good shelf life.
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When I go I usually just pack all that I can bring and then if it gets used up...Mother Nature provides all. You just gotta know what to look for. The longest I was ever out was a week, hiked a good chunk of the Appliacian Trail. Truthfully if you use common sense on what to bring and what are luxury items (i.e. CD Player, Radio, Laptop, etc...) you'll be fine. For food I usually bring those Lipton soup packets, noodle packets, trail mix, beef jerkey, and suff like that (not alotta space taken up and easy to cook out on the trail). I only drink water out there, but for something different I make pine tea. Just put a sprig of pine in a pot of hot water for about 5 minutes, makes a great tea. But if you go to a established campground you probally wouldnt have to worry about much, there is usually consession stands with stuff your gonna need. I usually go out in the middle of nowhere. Just remember Leave No Trace.
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06-15-2008, 11:44 PM
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I use MRE's for food and bring in an antibacterial filter straw for my drinking needs (like the Aquapure filter) and have excellent drinking water in about 15 minutes (from most any water tap, river, etc). Any good boy scout supply center, army-navy stores, military surplus or camping/survivalist outfitter should have good quality filters in various capacities. MRE's... you cannot actually have military issued ones but the same companies that make those for military use also make the very same products for civilian consumption. These are also good to have around the car and house in case of a natural distaster. Have extremely good shelf life. 
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I got one of those bottle with the filter in it already, but I usually bring enough in bottle for a couple days. Anything longer than that I got the filter. But I always boil the water that I use (replacement filters get expensive after a while).
And my bro is in the Army so we got a couple cases of the Military Issue MRE's laying around here.
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06-16-2008, 02:19 AM
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Make sure to use Idodine tablets for water. Boiling is no longer enough to kill all patogens, especially ghiardia.
As for mil issue MRE's... it is illegal for civilian to have/store. This is why I suggested a legal source.
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I got one of those bottle with the filter in it already, but I usually bring enough in bottle for a couple days. Anything longer than that I got the filter. But I always boil the water that I use (replacement filters get expensive after a while).
And my bro is in the Army so we got a couple cases of the Military Issue MRE's laying around here.
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